NOTES ON A MEETING OF THE WORSHIP GROUP
held at St Ursula's Church Hall on Tuesday 13 October 1998 at 1930 hours

Present: Wendy Astor, Elizabeth Bussmann, Hector Davie, Helen Hennings, Hugh Pettingell

Apologies for absence were received from Tricia Carrick and Martin Ellis.

The meeting opened with prayer.

  1. Main Notice Board

    It was noted that the services listed on the main notice board on Kirchenfeldstrasse still mentioned Evening Prayer. It was recommended that this be painted out as soon as possible.

  2. Letter from Tricia Carrick (appended)

    Helen read out a letter with Tricia's input for the meeting.

  3. New Music

    Elizabeth suggested that new songs could be practised at the beginning of the service. This proposal met with varied response.

    It was noted that a number of members of the congregation either played the guitar or had contacts who played. It was felt that this could be a help.

    Helen felt that new music could find a particular place in all-age worship services.

    Elizabeth noted that the new public address system could be used to provide devotional aids to worship - for example with music during the intercessions. She had done this during a service she had prepared, and it had been very successful.

  4. Outreach Services

    Elizabeth suggested holding outreach services three or four times a year to which friends or neighbours could be invited. The services would be devised to speak to those on the fringe of the church.

    She also suggested that it would be good to explain parts of the liturgy during the service. Hector noted that David was doing this already.

  5. Women's Day of Prayer

    This fell on 5 March 1999. The theme was Hope, "God's Gentle Touch", and the leadership was from Venezuela. Elizabeth proposed a special all-age service on Sunday 7 March, to involve children as well.

    It was noted that 14 March was Mothering Sunday. It was recommended that the two themes be combined.

    It was proposed that this be suggested to council on 3 November, and that council be invited to authorize Elizabeth to attend the preparation day in Gwatt and to defray her expenses.

  6. Redundant Services

    Hugh noted that the 0830 service was very poorly attended, and could not be described as a "church activity". He felt it should be cancelled. If there was a call for a weekly communion, a short said celebration could be added at the end of Morning Prayer - this was a common practice in England. Helen and Hector felt that the opinions of those who attended the service should be canvassed, and that if there was even a slight need, the service should continue. Hugh noted that the monthly prayer breakfast was only attended by one person, and recommended that it be cancelled. The notice of it in the magazine was misleading.

    Hugh also noted the poor attendance at the healing service, and questioned whether this showed there was no need for it. Elizabeth noted that it was an important part of ministry, and opinions differed as to whether the service was "irrelevant" or required considerably more preparation and follow-up than given at present. It was suggested that this be referred to council.

    Hugh also noted the poor attendance at contact evenings and outreach lunches, which had on occasions had to be cancelled. He felt the name "outreach" put people off. Needs changed rapidly when the congregation was fluid, and flexibility was required. What was needed were social activities for elderly people, who were often isolated and withdrawn. It was agreed to raise these points with council.

  7. Prayer Time before Services

    Helen suggested a formal time of prayer and study before the main Sunday service. The suggestion was noted.

  8. Children and Hymns

    Hector reminded the group that it had been agreed that the last hymn would take account of the presence of the children. Hugh said that this required extra coordination with Junior Church, and was unacceptable. No complaints had been received about this, and no action need be taken.

  9. Sanctuary Rail

    Hector enquired why the altar rail had reappeared. It was noted that council had agreed that it should be replaced for communion services. It was also noted that that it was difficult to move it away far Morning Prayer - on the other hand, as the Delta church always removed it, it was simply a question of asking them not to put it back. Council would consider this further. Helen also noted that the covers should always be put back on the heating gratings before people went up for communion, as this was a hazard to people with high-heeled shoes.

  10. Dates for 1999

    Wendy noted that the following dates were available in 1999 for All-Age Worship:
    31 January
    14 March (Mothering Sunday)
    30 May (Trinity)
    29 August
    31 October
    Council should be invited to allocate people to prepare services and to propose themes.

  11. Advertisement of Services

    Hugh felt that more could be done to ensure that people coming to Berne knew about St Ursula's and services here. Elizabeth noted that she and Charles were looking into this area. It was noted that St John's, Territet advertised in the Church Times.

    Hugh proposed that a postcard of the church with service times might be made available, possibly for sale, in hotels. Helen said that she had a similar project in mind. Hector noted that the magazine had formerly been distributed to hotels, with little response. It was agreed that the matter should be kept under consideration.

The meeting concluded at 2155 with the Grace.

WhatBy whomBy when
Corrections to notice boardWardens31 Oct
Get council to appoint team membersWA1 Dec
Finalize Christmas services and ensure
they are in magazine well in advance
WA14 Nov
Ask Council re children at Morning PrayerEB1 Dec
Ask Council re Women's Day of PrayerEB3 Nov
Ask Council re communion railWA1 Dec
Agree provisional 1999 dates with Council and DavidWA1 Dec

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Input for "Worship Committee" Meeting on Tuesday 13th October 1998

Sorry that I can't be at the meeting on Tuesday evening - but, at the moment: evenings are, generally, ruled out for me. However, I would like to offer some thoughts that you might like to consider.

  1. Organisation:
    • I feel that one of the reasons this "committee" never really succeeded in the past is that it had no "organisation". While I agree wholeheartedly with its need to be open to all members of the congregation who have some kind of input (and everyone should be encouraged to come to the meetings), I feel the council should show their commitment to this aspect of the life of St. Ursula's by appointing 4 - 5 "core" members of the committee (not necessarily council members) -Just like all the other committees.
    • Secondly, someone should be appointed to keep a record of the meetings and to define an agenda beforehand. This should, preferably, not be the chaplain although, obviously he must be an active member of the committee and be involved in agreeing the agenda. (Perhaps a word of explanation: I am convinced that the group must be open to the concerns of the people who (perhaps spontaneously) come along. But there are certain things that this group must take responsibility for - like agreeing, dates for special services (e.g. Harvest) in advance and ensuring that appropriate organisation is undertaken. These are the points that can be put on an agenda)
    • On a personal note. I would like to make a request to receive the "minutes" of all Worship committee meetings. If I Could, I would attend the meetings, I am very interested in what is discussed and agreed.

  2. All-Age Worship

    This is one of my main concerns. And I am willing (as before) to be involved in making it happen. My opinion (for what it's worth) is that all worship should be "all-age" in some way. And that worship should involve everyone. There are obviously many aspects to this, and it doesn't mean that we all spend every moment together. There are also many different ways of achieving this - perhaps it should be discussed in full at an appropriate occasion.

    But for now, I think it is essential to define the way of proceeding with the special "All-Age" services that happen on specific occasions and on some other Sundays throughout the year. One suggestion is that a small group (3-4) people should agree to arrange all-age worship for the next year (perhaps 5-6 services) - 1 would be very happy to be part of such a group (if they can accept my time-constraints).

  3. Forward Planning:

    Could I make a request that special services are agreed, planned and published in advance. Not like the Harvest Festival this year, which seems to have been well hidden from public knowledge - not in. the September magazine. for example:

    Specifically, I would expect this meeting (in October) to agree the service dates and times (including the Nativity Play) for Christmas. Also to define the form the service is to take and who's responsible for making it happen. These dates and appropriate information can then be publicised in the November magazine, giving people a chance to reserve the dates.

  4. Children in Church:

    An age-old issue but still needs to be discussed regularly. Could I make a suggestion that someone take on responsibility for liaison between the worship committee and the Junior Church team leaders' (Ideally, of course, a representative of the Junior Church would attend all Worship committee meetings, as Cecily did.)

  5. The "Notice Slot"

    It would be useful if a consensus could be reached about the timing and purpose of this "event". My opinion (if anyone's interested) is that it has 2 purposes: a) to pass on information that could not be included on the notice sheet b) to plug special events, ask for help (the response is always much better if people's attention is drawn to a need this way) But it needs to be kept short otherwise people switch off. And it should take place when as many people as possible are in church i.e. after the children come in. And if people can't be heard then either get someone with a louder voice to give out the notices or use a microphone (possibly standing in front of the children rather than behind them would suffice).

Tricia Carrick.